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Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, This is my first semester as a TA and I've just received some troubling news from the professor I work for. I was informed that during my set office hours (spent sitting in a TA lab), I should only keep track of and be paid for the hours I spend doing something actually related to the class (grading papers, meeting with students, answering emails, etc.). If I have nothing class-related to work on and I'm, say, working on my own homework, the professor told me I should not count those hours and therefore not be paid for sitting in the office, waiting for a student to email or come in. One of the most appealing aspects of being a TA seemed to be the opportunity to be paid to merely be available to the students. This was one of the determining factors in my deciding to take the job. Now--this appeal is gone, and my questions are these: Are there any TA pay guidelines anywhere or is it simply professor discretion? I have never heard of any other TA being paid like this and am wondering if it is actually standard and I just haven't heard about it. This policy seems pretty abnormal to me...is it? Also, while I don't think I want to quit being a TA, I do want to professionally express my feelings to the professor. She is a relatively new professor so I'm not sure she knows how different her wage policy is. Advice? Thanks, TA
ADear TA, Yah, that's ridiculous. If you're sitting in an office for a designated period of time so that students will be able to come see you then you should be charging for your time. That's basically the definition of the service industry. -obstreperous ADear TA, I suspect that if there are any policy guidelines, they're set by the individual departments, so you'd have to check with whichever department hired you about those. As for my opinion, I agree with obstreperous. I can see where your professor is coming from, but her stance just isn't entirely reasonable. The biggest reason is that you're making yourself available, which is your side of the bargain. As long as you're not shirking (you really have done all you can do), I don't see any problem at all with working on your own things if students aren't taking advantage of your help. One possible solution, in this case, might be to go out of your way to find other class-related things you can do. Depending on the class, it might be helpful to review some of the material yourself so that you can be ready for students' questions. You can go as in-depth as you like: work proofs, really dig into the background of the subject matter, etc. I'm afraid I don't have any brilliant insights on how best to talk to your professor, except to think through what you want to say first and to always be respectful. Good luck! —Laser Jock Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Is there any statistics on how competitive the Elementary Ed program is. For some reason I was thinking all you had to do was finish all your GE's and the pre-req's, do the application, and you were in, but last night I was informed that it was an extremely competitive program that not many got into. What is true? I am planning on applying in January, so if it's more competitive than I thought, I'll have to step up the game a little bit. -Rekrab
ADear Rekrab, When I was applying to the ElEd program, I was worried about the same thing. An advisor told me that about 90% of applicants get in. It does require some work to get in, but the kind of people who apply are typically the type who meet all of the criteria, which explains the high acceptance rate. Basically, the only reasons you wouldn't get in would be if you don't meet the minimum GPA requirement, or if the committee has a legitimate reason to doubt your ability to complete the program's requirements. If you have a decent GPA and pass the skills tests, you should be just fine. Good luck! ⋯Anomalous Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I recently graduated from BYU. For months prior to graduation I was so excited to get out of the BYU bubble and jump into real life. I was looking forward to having non-member friends again that I could share the gospel with and an overall greater level of diversity in my life. Now that my husband and I have moved away from Utah for work, I admit that I miss the BYU environment terribly. Life is easier now that we're not in school but I miss the instant friends I had in Utah with so many members of the Church around me. We moved to a place with few, if any, people in our ward in a similar life situation. I feel a bit lonely. I think I mainly just miss the BYU atmosphere. Sorry this is so long. Did any of you experience this missing-BYU phenomenon? What did you do to overcome it and enjoy your new life? - (Bleeding Blue)
ADear Bleeding, I am currently going through the BYU-departure process. I also recently graduated, began working near Salt Lake, and will shortly be moving to Salt Lake. Even though I am still living in the same place I lived in as a student, I have found that I am already getting nostalgic whenever my friends and roommates start talking about classes, professors, seeing people we know on campus, and even papers that they have to write. However, tough as it is when I wind up envying my friends, I realize that they are the ones making my transition smoother. I would recommend that while you work to make new friends (no matter their situation or religious affiliation), you also continue to keep up with and nurture your relationships with your BYU friends. It would also probably help quite a bit to contact any friends you have from BYU who are currently in your same situation; as they may be feeling the same way that you do, you may be able to help each other. ~Hermia ADear (Bleeding Blue), I grew up in an area with very few members, but I adjusted pretty well to the overwhelmingly-LDS BYU atmosphere. What I could never quite get used to was the Utah atmosphere beyond the BYU bubble. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it's just not what I am used to and not what I would prefer. I graduated this past winter semester, and there are certain aspects about BYU that I miss, but don't necessarily long for. For example, it was so easy to make friends and hang out with anyone at BYU, but I've enjoyed moving on from that and entering this mysterious "real world." It definitely was a transition, especially moving to a foreign country, but I'm loving where I am in life right now. If you're having a difficult time, maybe you could try accentuating the positive aspects in your life right now. When you graduate, they say you're suppose to move on to bigger and better things, so make sure you're putting forth the effort. Reminisce with friends about the good times back at BYU, but try not to cling to them. Good memories are one of life's best treats, but don't forget about today and what you could be doing. I will admit, however, that I do miss International Cinema something fierce. -Sky Bones Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I don't know if this qualifies as a large-scale counting question, but I'll give it a shot. How many lightbulbs (or, at this point, empty sockets) around the Y on Y mountain? - Trying to Plan an Event
ADear Trying, According to Board Question #40271, 125 25-watt light bulbs are used to light up the Y. —Laser Jock Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Why is it so rare for people to fall in love with someone they grew up with in movies? - The Swan Princess
ADear Odette, Because few people grow up in movies. ~Hermia ADear Swan Princess, It's so rare in TV because it's also rare in real life. There's something about growing up with other people that makes it difficult to think about them romantically. I'm not just making this up; it's called the Westermarck effect (Wikipedia; Google book on family relationships). -Whistler ADear The Swan Princess, I'm going to go right along with Whistler here and make an educational guess and say that people tend to develop more brotherly-sisterly relationships with those that they grow up with, both in real life and in the movies. They often feel more protective of each other in a familial sort of way, and thinking romantically about someone like that almost seems like incest, even though it really is not. -Sky Bones Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Is there really a BYU honor code secret police? Because I would LOVE to be one. I know that sounds tattle tale-y of me but whenever people break the honor code I always tell them to stop, but they don't respect me (or get angry) so if there is a secret police I'd love to be part of it - Anonymous
ADear Anonymous The Honor Code Secret Police consists of people like you. There is no official organization, just an informal network of tattle tale-y students. -Humble Master ADear anonymous, I hate you so much. No offense. -Cognoscente ADear no wonder you're Anonymous, Okay, okay, I wasn't gonna say anything, but I figure that since I'm writing under a pseudonym, I can tell you that I'm part of this secret police. There's an official application process that you need to go through to be selected, and luckily for you, we're looking to fill a few more positions. So, here's what you do: First, go to the Testing Center on any weekday from 1-5 pm. Get in the line as you usually would, and ask to have Jeff give you your test. Use the phrase "I'd like to test the Honor Code, please." He'll examine you to make sure that you yourself meet the standards, then present you with a short quiz to prove your familiarity with the Code. After finishing, exit the Testing Center through the east doors. Two of our agents will follow you until 1 am. You'll be tested on your practical knowledge of the Code (meaning, we want to see how well you can enforce it when presented with less-than-righteous situations). Here are some tips for how to boost your score: - Use the word "integrity" liberally. - Specifically condemn NCMO. - Be sure to link perpetrators' breaking of the Honor Code with their lack of personal testimony of the Gospel. - Use the phrase "The Spirit goes to bed at midnight" at least once. - Interrupt a couple during a romantic moment and remind them to "remember who they are." Bonus points for knocking on a car window. - Refuse to leave the living room if your roommate has a date with him/her in the apartment. - Reference the "Circle of Honor" quote. Bonus points for drawing a real chalk circle around someone. - With all of these, you'll receive a 2x score multiplier if you choke up/get teary-eyed as you say or do them. Show 'em that you really care about their salvation. If you have any questions during the application process, just remember the Secret Police motto: "Be sanctimonious at all times, and in all things, and in all places." Best of luck! We'll get those motes out of others' eyes someday. -Commander Keen Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, My student development teacher told me that from the incoming freshmen of Fall 2008, 1 out of every 8 was the valadictorian in their high school. Is this really true? - BeeBee
ADear BeeBee, According to Y Facts, 5,400 freshmen came into BYU in Fall 2008. One-eighth of those is 680 students. I was in freshmen wards in Fall 2006 and Fall 2007, and if there was anything like a valedictorian in every eight of us, there should have been about 17 valedictorians in each of those wards. As far as I know, there was only one both years, and the second year that wouldn't have counted because she wasn't a freshman. I realize that valedictorian-ship isn't exactly the most known fact about people in your ward, but still, allow me to be skeptical. - The Black Sheep ADear BeeBee, When I came to BYU in Fall of 2008, with my five other roommates in Heritage Halls, not one of us was a valedictorian. We hung out with many other freshmen (which adds up to at least eight total), and while none of us were failing, none were valedictorians either. Maybe I picked the wrong eight people to compare, though. Considering how many people came from the same schools, I find it hard to believe that one out of eight people that year were valedictorians. I'm with The Black Sheep, skeptical until I see those high school rankings. -Mico ADear BeeBee (and Black Sheep and Mico), The previous answers assume that the valedictorians would be equally dispersed throughout freshman housing. My wife (not a valedictorian) lived on a floor of Deseret Towers with a ward that consisted almost entirely of the same Freshman Academy group. There were three Hinckley scholars in the ward. All I'm saying (without providing any factual answer myself) is that it would be difficult to confirm or deny this claim (which I personally doubt) based on personal freshman rooming. - Rating Pending (whose friend and high school valedictorian went to the U of U) ADear everyone, That's true, and I did end up in more social science-y Freshman Academy floors both times (not that I'm knocking you, social science Freshman Academy students! I was one myself), so it's entirely likely that maybe past valedictorians flock to other Freshman Academies. However, my point is that you don't ever hear of a ward with 17 valedictorians in it. I don't think there's really a way to answer this definitively, but when I look at the number breakdowns, I just can't imagine that it's true. - The Black Sheep Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Do you have any great ideas for Book of Mormon Research Paper topics? - Eliza
ADear Eliza, Here are a few off the top of my head: -The significance of names and naming: This starts early on when Lehi names a valley and a river after Laman and Lemuel. Is this a custom? A tradition? The Nephites, because of their love for Nephi, begin to call their king "Nephi." Later, the Lamanites seem to begin to call their kings "Laman." In Alma 8, it mentions that it is a custom to name cities (even small cities) after the first person to dwell there. But there are examples (like in Alma 7) when a valley or place is named for someone significant, like the valley of Gideon. And then of course, Helaman names his sons after Lehi and Nephi and Mormon names his son after Captain Moroni. Do these practices have ties to Hebrew or Middle Eastern traditions? -Racism in the Book of Mormon: How do the authors of the Book of Mormon make judgment statements about the culture of the Lamanites? What does the color of their skin really mean? Do the opinions or ideas about the Lamanites and their skin color change over time? (I don't mean that the Book of Mormon is inherently racist, but some people think so. You write an argument paper refuting or analyzing some of those claims.) -Military Tactics: Research the way the Lamanites, Nephites and other groups use spies, combat between leaders (like in Alma chapter 1), communication, methods of defense, etc. Maybe try to find parallels between ancient middle eastern warfare methods and those found in the Book of Mormon. Good luck. - Rating Pending (who wrote a paper about health care for a Book of Mormon class that impacted him quite a lot) Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I'm a new freshman at byu, and I would love to know where the best places to hang out and meet people are on campus. So far I basically go to classes, do homework, and then hang out around the dorms. Not that the dorms aren't fantastic, ok well they aren't fantastic but they're not that bad either, but I'm guessing that there's a lot more to having a good social life at byu besides hanging around the dorms. Thanks :) BuilderOfRome
ADear BuilderOfRome, I'm still very happy with you because of your question about Italian tutors (I'm not sure which question will post first, but know that I am a very happy camper). Because you are my new favorite person, I want nothing more than for you to succeed in meeting fun, new people at BYU. Here are my suggestions: Find a hobby. Think about your interests and find a club at BYU that focuses on something you care about. This can be anything from the Swing Dancing Club to the Mac Users Club. You can join the Service Squad or participate in International Cinema. By getting involved in something that interests you, you will not only meet new people, but you will meet new people with whom you have something in common. It is always easier to get to know someone when you have some common ground to tread. Second, participate in campus activities. Club events aside, there are always tons of things going on on-campus. Different clubs, organizations, and colleges within the university sponsor events that are usually open to any student. Take advantage of the activities that BYUSA sponsors. Go to Humor U and Divine Comedy. During football season, give tailgates a try. You can also give the plethora of guest speakers that BYU makes available a try. Thanks to BYU's proximity to Church headquarters, there is never a shortage of world and religious leaders who are available to speak on-campus. Attend these lectures, and meet people with similar interests. Above all, have fun. Take advantage of all that campus has to offer--you won't be able to fit it all in, but if you take a random sampling, you'll be in for a fantastic four years. I'm having the time of my life, ⋯Anomalous P.S. The Information Desk in the Wilk always has fliers advertising different activities. The front entrance of the Wilk is also a good place to find information about what's happening on campus, as I'm sure you learned upon walking in on the first day of classes and being attacked by about fifty different club representatives. ADear BuilderOfRome, One good way to meet people is to eat at the Cougareat when it is so crowded that you have no choice but to share tables with strangers. Although you'll often end up with people who are stressed and just want to study, you can meet some pretty cool people this way. ~Hermia ADear Remus&Romulus Second floor periodicals in the library...I've heard. But then again, that's just to go on dates with random strangers. If you want a group to hang with, though, you're probably going to have to create the environment yourself, but it's not hard. Have a few people over for cookies a couple of times and bam - you've got friends. Ward friends are especially good because that means everything's in walking distance. Love the dorm lobbies because they are naturally conducive to congregating- just set up camp with your homework until someone walks in and then strike up a conversation. If you live in Wyview, you have to rock the stairwell. Add a hammock or some lawn chairs (add blankets in the winter) and you've got almost the same set-up. I've hung out on the Wyview stairs for multiple hours before. It's kinda cool to be outside after being inside all day. If you've already condemned your ward for having zero friend potential, then (shame on you) invite some of your class friends over to study in hopes that they'll become your real friends. Or, you could always sit around your apartment in hopes that your roommates will do the grunt work for you and invite people over themselves. I don't recommend this. You'll feel like the tag-along in all of your friendships. Bottom line: there are no magical places on campus to instantly have friends. You just have to be friendly and just a little courageous. -Ineffable Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I'm taking Italian this semester and I've been trying to find a tutor but I don't really know where to start. Someone mentioned an italian club but I haven't been able to find any more about it? Even an rm who went to italy, or really anyone who speaks italian would be fantastic, but how do I find someone like that? Thanks BuilderOfRome
ADear My New Favorite Person, I'm minoring in Italian, and I had NO IDEA that there is an Italian writing lab! When I began to research this question, I didn't have high hopes...until I stumbled upon this little gem. Hooray for Italian writing labs! The site says that native Italian speakers are available to tutor students at any level. You can find information on Club Italia (or iClub) here. Italian professors (at least the two that I have had) do a good job of advertising iClub events in class, so keep your ears open for any special iClub activities (they do about two a month). I would also take advantage of International Cinema when Italian movies are being played. Exposure to the language helps a ton. Another thing that my professor suggested that I do (feel free to do the same or alter according to your preferences) is to buy a copy of the Book of Mormon in Italian (you can find it at the BYU bookstore for cheap). Read it out loud, no matter how silly you think you sound. Italian is a difficult language to get used to speaking, and reading out loud helps you to get used to where your tongue should be when you say certain letters. Have fun with Italian; I love it!! Bet you can't guess where I'll be tomorrow, ⋯Anomalous Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, If you go into the humanities section of the HBLL on the first floor, walk in, and go almost to the back, attached to the roof there is this weird grey thing. It is in the center of wing in between the last two pillars if you were facing the end of the wing from the doors. Its a circle, about the diameter of a dinner plate but about 2 inches thick, has a red center and a bunch of orange and green blinking lights. What is this? Thanks! - Not a humanities major, but studies there all the time
ADear studies, That's a wireless access point—it broadcasts BYU's wireless Internet signals. —Laser Jock ADear Not a humanities major, Are you sure you study in the Humanities section of the HBLL? The Humanities reference desk is on the fifth floor. Special Collections, Social Sciences, and Management/Economics/Government Information make up the entire first floor. Sounds to me like you might actually have been studying in the Social Sciences department this whole time. Just making sure you're not lost. Have fun studying! -Sky Bones Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I recently saw the movie Ikiru at International Cinema. In it, the main character has terminal stomach cancer. However, the doctor that examines him tells him it's an ulcer and to not worry about it, though after the main character leaves the doctor tells a nurse that he only has 6 months to live. The main character ends up figuring out on his own, but doesn't tell his family. At his wake his son comments on how it's a blessing his father didn't know about it because stomach cancer's a death sentence. Then today I was reading about Sakae Menda on Wikipedia, and the article mentioned that death row inmates in Japan were not informed of when they would be executed, and the executions would take place with little or no notice. So, my question is, in Japanese culture is it common to not want to know about one's impending death? If it is part of the culture, why do you thing it is? It would seem to be a major difference from American culture, where I would definitely want to know if I had 6 months to live. - Laertes
ADear Laertes, I am so happy that you asked this question. Japanese culture is one of my specialties and greatest joys to research. Initially I could only take an educational guess at your question, but through much research, e-mailing, and conversing, I’m feeling quite enlightened at the moment. I will try to present a concise summary of my findings and refrain from ranting about relevant, but not necessarily important to your question, topics. The Japanese have a very interesting perspective on death. Essentially and traditionally, it stems from Zen-Buddhist beliefs that death is a natural process, that life and death are one, and people should accept death as it is. Death should be a personal and private matter. It is taken very seriously and not openly discussed. When it comes, it should not be a struggle. For much of Japan’s history, physicians were not to be questioned by their patients. Their words were always taken as being in the best interest of the patient. It was considered appropriate to not inform patients of their impending death, but often proper to inform their families. If death is supposed to be a natural process then being aware of one’s impending death would change a person, thus interfering with their abilities to find peace at the end of their life. Death should be allowed to come naturally. In the Japanese tradition, particularly amongst samurai, one should always be prepared for death at any given moment. Becoming aware of your death in advance would interfere with this natural process. It would give a person too much time to think about their death and become emotional and attached to the world. It would weaken their spirit and they could easily become troubled at the end. Akira Kurosawa, the director of Ikiru, was a brilliant and daring man. His movies are always meant to be thought-provoking and always have a bit of an existential feel to them. With Ikiru he was trying to tell people that life is precious and they need to avoid monotony, take risks, and truly live their lives. In the movie, Kanji Watanabe realizes how tedious his life has been and with death staring him in the face he finally makes changes and learns how to live. Fortunately, he is able to come to terms with himself and find peace before he dies, which is depicted in the scene with him sitting on the swing in the park singing the song about gondolas. The practice of not informing a patient of a terminal illness is one of many elements in Japanese culture that has undergone a transformation (i.e., westernized) in the last couple of decades. Ikiru was released in 1952 when it was the standard practice to withhold that kind of information from a patient, but this isn’t necessarily the case anymore. Japan has begun to move away from this practice, but many Japanese superstitions and practices concerning death still exist. I agree that most Americans would absolutely want to know if they only had six months to live. They’d drive themselves crazy trying to travel to countries they’ve always meant to see, catching up with all of their relatives, and making sure everything in their life is perfectly in line and ready for their departure. Traditionally, to the Japanese this would be seen as interfering with the natural course of life, thus the ability to secure peace in the end. Western culture, however, has had a huge impact on Japanese culture throughout its history, but particularly in the last twenty years. And please don’t get me started on that one. So, I suppose the lesson we are meant to learn is live your life for it is precious and open your arms wide when death comes knocking on your door. It will make the transition a lot easier. -Sky Bones Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, I have a question, which may be answered either by opinion or authoritative statement; I could use both, or either. Suppose I have purchased and downloaded a copy of some piece of digital media... say, The Lion King 2. (Hippothetically.) And suppose that, due to some snafu or other, said purchased file gets lost. Perhaps it was deleted, or became corrupted, or I had it on an external hard drive that got dropped into a food processor. Would it be legally and/or ethically wrong (important distinction) to obtain from a third-party source a copy of said lost file, in a manner that would normally be illegal? If my brother deleted my beloved copy of TLK2, would it be wrong (either legally or morally) to, say, use BitTorrent to download another copy, or rip it from a friend's DVD? - Kiara
ADear Kiara, Legally, doing so would be wrong.* However, I have a hard time condemning anyone's ethics for downloading a pirated copy to replace a legal one that gets damaged or deleted. It doesn't cost the producer anything, unless you want to try to argue that they're entitled to another sale—which would be a tough argument to make. —Laser Jock * I am, of course, not a lawyer, so don't rely on my say-so. ADear Kiara, This is where the RIAA and MPAA's attempts to treat digital media like physical goods falls apart. See, what they want is for you to think that you're "buying" each item like a physical good. So if it gets lost you just have to re-buy it. But (and here's the catch-22) they also want to be able to tell you what you can and cannot do with the item after you've purchased it. So they claim that you're really just "licensing" the product from them. Currently, they get to have their cake and eat it too. If you're just licensing it, then they should replace a lost product at only the reproduction cost because you've already paid for the license. They won't do that however. So if little Jimmy snaps your DVD in half your only legal recourse is to buy a new copy. Now, if you had magically obtained a backup copy of that DVD which you used, and kept the original in a safe place, you'd be all set. Possessing backup copies of media is perfectly legal as part of the Fair Use Doctrine. However, actually producing a backup copy of a DVD is illegal by virtue of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. We live in a country where it is legal to own a backup of your media, but illegal to produce that backup and it is even illegal to provide a way to produce backup copies. To make sure you all understand that I'm not making this up or misleading you, here is the statement made by U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel after ruling on the RealDVD case in August 2009 (read more from the Wired article):
Personally, I think this state of affairs is insane. If, as the RIAA/MPAA would like us to believe, I am simply "licensing" the content of the DVD/MP3/AVI/etc., then they should be required to provide me a replacement copy for the cost of reproduction (for a computer file, this could be the cost of transmitting it to over the Internet, let's say $0.01). If, however, it is a "physical good" then I should be allowed to do whatever I like with it after I've purchased it, for instance: edit the content and resell it to another party. So while your action would technically be illegal, I would have no problem with it. -Curious Physics Minor ADear Kiara, Thanks for making "hippothetically" my new favorite word! I am imagining all sorts of uses, and find it hilarious that you used it in connection with The Lion King (which, you know, has hippo[potamu]s in it). That is all. -Miss Scarlett Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Please help me with this clarification. If I repeat something one time, will I have said (or done) it once or twice? If I repeat something two times, is that twice also? or would that make three times? - not visionary
ADear NV, If you repeat once you say it twice, if you repeat twice you say it thrice. But many people say, "Twice I repeated that bit of information," when they really mean once. Love, Waldorf and Sauron Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, How long after you "pull the plug" does it take someone to die? -not as morbid as it seems
ADear not I don't think there is any absolute standard amount of time. It will be different for each individual. Here, someone mentions their brother having life support removed at 3:00, and his time of death not coming until 3:45. But over at this thread at allnurses.com, someone asks how long it takes because their grandma was taken off life support two days ago and still has not passed. Here are some of the responses:
There are several other comments later in the thread saying it's a different amount of time for everyone. -Humble Master Back to top QDear 100 Hour Board, Today as I was snacking on some corned beef in a tin I found in the fridge, I found myself wondering: what is the difference (if any, but I sure hope there is) between corned beef and cat food? Please no diatribes about the nastiness of tinned corned beef. I was hungry, it was readily accessible, it was protein, it was strangely satisfying. But man, it looks an awful lot like cat food. -General Shermann
ADear General Sherman, Have you ever smelled cat food? Wet cat food, I mean? Well, even if it looks like corned beef, it smells nothing like it. Here's a comparison of cat food ingredients (of an all-beef, canned cat food variety) vs. corned beef ingredients: Cat Food (Evo 95% Beef Canned Cat Food): beef, beef broth, tricalcium phosphate, natural flavors, carrageenan, minerals, potassium chloride, guar gum, vitamins, choline chloride, herring oil, salt, sodium ascorbate, sunflower oil, taurine, sodium phosphate, beta carotene The blurb before the list ingredients on the site where I found this says, "Evo 95% Beef Cat Food contains 95% meat, including bones, fat, cartilage and connective tissues. A sure pleaser for any cat!" Mmmm - connective tissue! Should go great with your herring oil! Corned Beef (Sanisbury Corned Beef): beef, salt, sugar, sodium nitrite So there you go. Cat food (and there are lots of different kinds) typically has vitamin and mineral supplements added to it along with things cats need to stay healthy. Cats need an amino acid derivative called taurine which keeps their hearts, eyes and kidneys healthy. Cat food and corned beef are definitely different things. - Rating Pending (who diatribes about all of your food decisions) |
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